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Today's featured article for October 28, 2024

Cucurbita (Latin for gourd) is a genus of vines in the gourd family, native to the Andes and Mesoamerica. Five species are grown worldwide, variously known as squash, pumpkin, or gourd depending on species, variety, and local parlance. The fruits have played a role in human culture for at least 2,000 years. First cultivated in the Americas before being brought to Europe by returning explorers, the plants remain an important food source. Most Cucurbita species are herbaceous vines that grow several meters in length and have tendrils, but bush cultivars of C. pepo and C. maxima have also been developed. Many North and Central American species are visited by honey bees, as well as specialist bees that pollinate only a single species. Most of the domesticated species can be considered winter squash, since the full-grown fruits can be stored for months. Their extracts have many uses, including in cosmetics. The fruits are also good sources of vitamins and minerals. (Full article...)

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Le roi d'Ys is an opera in three acts by the French composer Édouard Lalo, to a libretto by Édouard Blau. It is based on the old Breton legend of the drowned city of Ys which was, according to the legend, the capital of the kingdom of Cornouaille. The opera includes a noteworthy aubade for tenor, in act 3, titled "Vainement, ma bien-aimée" (In vain, my beloved). Le roi d'Ys premiered on 7 May 1888 at the Théâtre Lyrique in Paris, in a production by the Opéra-Comique. Within France, Le roi d'Ys was regarded as Lalo's most recognized work. This poster by Auguste François-Marie Gorguet was produced for the opera's premiere.

Poster credit: Auguste François-Marie Gorguet

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re: Battle of Milvian Bridge

The statement that Constantine adopted Christian faith around 28 October 312 is highly arguable. And, in fact, "October 28" page states that he defeated Maxentius, saying nothing about Christianity. The legend of the vision, "in hoc signo vinces", and labarum is, properly, a legend.--Panairjdde 08:04, 28 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I rewrote the sentence. Is it better now ? -- PFHLai 16:36, 28 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

No. Later Christian sources claimed this legend (and some of them put the vision when Maxentius was in the north). No pagan source deals with such miracle. The bound between the battle and the miracle is legendary, not historical, altought it is important.--Panairjdde 18:02, 28 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Another thing, can "god" be capitalized into "God"? --Howard the Duck 13:34, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

re: Italian dictators

I don't think Mr. Berlusconi appreciates that the link on "italian dictators" says "italian prime ministers" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 145.64.134.222 (talk) 16:20, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You have your point. I've replaced the link. --BorgQueen (talk) 16:28, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Dictator.no prime minister

ioannis metaxas was not the prime minister of greece,but a dictator.that we learn here in greece in school and univercity.it is unbelievable that you present him as a prime minister —Preceding unsigned comment added by Koliri (talk • contribs) 21:32, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

2012 notes

Omitted: Battle of the Milvian Bridge; Royal Marines; Battle of White Plains; Indonesia Raya (ineligible—maintenance); Cristina Fernández de Kirchner (ineligible—maintenance)
Included: 1707 Hōei earthquake (first appearance); Czechoslovakia (first appearance); Gateway Arch (first appearance); Prospero (satellite) (first appearance)
Repeats: Declaration of the Independence of New Zealand/United Tribes of New Zealand (both: 2nd consecutive appearance; 2 total)

—howcheng {chat} 10:55, 27 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

2013 notes

Added but deleted: Forbidden City (date not in article)
Moved to Ineligible: Royal Marines (maintenance)
New articles (unused): An Alpine Symphony
Omitted: 1707 Hōei earthquake; Declaration of the Independence of New Zealand/United Tribes of New Zealand; Czechoslovakia; Gateway Arch; Prospero (satellite)
Included: Jude the Apostle (rescued from Ineligible); Battle of the Milvian Bridge (9th appearance, last in 2011); Statue of Liberty (6th appearance, last in 2008); Symphony No. 6 (Tchaikovsky) (first appearance); 1995 Baku Metro fire (2nd appearance, last in 2011); 28 October 2009 Peshawar bombing (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 05:25, 27 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Is it possible to include a link to not existing article? Today all the world celebrates The International School Library Day Perohanych (talk) 06:11, 28 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No, you would have to create the article first, then propose it for next year ... — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:56, 28 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

2014 notes

Omitted: Battle of the Milvian Bridge; Statue of Liberty; Symphony No. 6 (Tchaikovsky); 1995 Baku Metro fire
Included: Jonas Salk (first appearance; 100th anniversary of birth); Beijing (first appearance); Declaration of the Independence of New Zealand/United Tribes of New Zealand (both: 3rd appearance, last in 2012); 1891 Mino-Owari earthquake (first appearance); Volstead Act (3rd appearance, last in 2010)
Repeats: 28 October 2009 Peshawar bombing (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total)

—howcheng {chat} 08:11, 27 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

2015 notes

Omitted: Beijing; Declaration of the Independence of New Zealand/United Tribes of New Zealand; 1891 Mino-Owari earthquake; Volstead Act; 1995 Baku Metro fire
Included: 1707 Hōei earthquake (2nd appearance, last in 2012); Statue of Liberty (7th appearance, last in 2013); An Alpine Symphony (first appearance; 100th anniversary); Greco-Italian War (5th appearance, last in 2008; rescued from Ineligible; 75th anniversary); Gateway Arch (2nd appearance, last in 2012; 50th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 08:43, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

2016 notes

Moved to Ineligible: Czechoslovakia (maintenance)
Rescued from Ineligible (unused): Cristina Fernández de Kirchner
Omitted: 1707 Hōei earthquake; Statue of Liberty; An Alpine Symphony; Greco-Italian War; Gateway Arch
Included: Royal Marines (2nd appearance, last in 2011; rescued from Ineligible); Declaration of the Independence of New Zealand/United Tribes of New Zealand (both: 4th appearance, last in 2014); 1891 Mino–Owari earthquake (2nd appearance, last in 2014); Volstead Act (4th appearance, last in 2014); Prospero (satellite) (2nd appearance, last in 2012)

—howcheng {chat} 11:11, 27 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

2017 notes

Moved to Ineligible: Beijing (maintenance); Symphony No. 6 (Tchaikovsky) (maintenance); An Alpine Symphony (maintenance); Cristina Fernández de Kirchner (maintenance)
Omitted: Royal Marines (ineligible—maintenance); United Tribes of New Zealand (blurb previously also featured Declaration of the Independence of New Zealand, which is currently ineligible); 1891 Mino–Owari earthquake; Prospero (satellite)
Included: Battle of the Milvian Bridge (10th appearance, last in 2013); Ladislaus the Posthumous (first appearance); Tutankhamun's mask (first appearance); 2013 Tiananmen Square attack (first appearance); Johann Karl August Musäus (first appearance); Rosalie Slaughter Morton (first appearance); Bill Gates (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 04:50, 28 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

2018 notes

Rescued from Ineligible (unused): Royal Marines
Omitted: Battle of the Milvian Bridge; Ladislaus the Posthumous; Volstead Act; Mask of Tutankhamun; 2013 Tiananmen Square attack; Johann Karl August Musäus; Rosalie Slaughter Morton; Bill Gates
Included: 1707 Hōei earthquake (3rd appearance, last in 2015); Statue of Liberty (8th appearance, last in 2015); Greco-Italian War (6th appearance, last in 2015); 1995 Baku Metro fire (3rd appearance, last in 2013); Cristina Fernández de Kirchner (3rd appearance, last in 2010; rescued from Ineligible); Ibas of Edessa (first appearance); Marie of the Incarnation (Ursuline) (2nd appearance, last in 2018; also appeared on April 30, her birthday); Francis Bacon (artist) (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 07:20, 29 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

2019 notes

Moved to Ineligible: Bill Gates (maintenance)
Omitted: 1707 Hōei earthquake; Statue of Liberty; Greco-Italian War; 1995 Baku Metro fire; Cristina Fernández de Kirchner; Ibas of Edessa; Marie of the Incarnation (Ursuline); Francis Bacon (artist) (ineligible—POTD for 2019)
Included: Royal Marines (3rd appearance, last in 2016); 1891 Mino–Owari earthquake (3rd appearance, last in 2016); Volstead Act (6th appearance, last in 2017; 100th anniversary); Mask of Tutankhamun (2nd appearance, last in 2017); Prospero (satellite) (3rd appearance, last in 2016); Margaret I of Denmark (first appearance); Carlos Guastavino (2nd appearance, last in 2018; moved from October 29)

—howcheng {chat} 15:58, 29 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

2020 notes

Moved to Ineligible: United Tribes of New Zealand (maintenance)
Rescued from Ineligible (unused): Bill Gates
New articles (unused): Max Henry Ferrars; John Hewson
Omitted: Royal Marines; 1891 Mino–Owari earthquake; Volstead Act; Mask of Tutankhamun; Prospero (satellite); Margaret I of Denmark; Johann Karl August Musäus
Included: Ladislaus the Posthumous (2nd appearance, last in 2017); 1707 Hōei earthquake (4th appearance, last in 2018); Czechoslovak declaration of independence (first appearance); Greco-Italian War (7th appearance, last in 2018; 80th anniversary); 1995 Baku Metro fire (4th appearance, last in 2018; 25th anniversary); Peter Tordenskjold (first appearance); Charlotte Turner Smith (first appearance)
Repeats: Carlos Guastavino (3rd consecutive appearance, 3 total; 20th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 06:16, 30 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

2021 notes

New articles (ineligible): John Hewson (maintenance)
New articles (unused): Red Auerbach
Omitted: Ladislaus the Posthumous; 1707 Hōei earthquake; Czechoslovak declaration of independence; Greco-Italian War; 1995 Baku Metro fire; Peter Tordenskjold; Charlotte Turner Smith; Carlos Guastavino
Included: Battle of White Plains (2nd appearance, last in 2011 (!!)); 1891 Mino–Owari earthquake (4th appearance, last in 2019); Indonesia Raya (2nd appearance, last in 2011; rescued from Ineligible); Prospero (spacecraft) (4th appearance, last in 2019; 50th anniversary); 2013 Tiananmen Square attack (2nd appearance, last in 2017); Robert Liston (first appearance); Max Henry Ferrars (first appearance; 175th birthday); Rosalie Slaughter Morton (2nd appearance, last in 2017)

—howcheng {chat} 07:44, 29 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]